Celtic Moment

Even if it was, what’s it doing in Loch Ness anyway?

I don’t mean holidays and practices and all of that. I mean art (The Acropolis) or the art inspired by pagan art like most of the Ren period and Celtic crosses of the Middle Ages. Great philosphers such as Plato or the huge discoveries in math and astronomy. Is this “rejected” too or appreciated for the beauty that it is, pagan or not?
For the record, while I consider myself pagan, I do not consider to the “we” in any culture but those of my ancestors.
So I’m all over the dragon boats and the Celtic crosses! But sadly, I not claim Plato.

ive read so many comments about the bloody sunday report and so many people bringing the IRA into it – this was a civil rights march. Catholics had no rights back in those days – similar to the way black people used to be treated in America. Rather than pick up arms and murder like the IRA, they decided to have a civil rights march. Do you not think they had the right to march against this bigotry. Or do you think its acceptable to be treated as second-class citizens based on religion?

It had nothing to do with the IRA (who btw were/are not the only terrorist organisation in Northern Ireland – seems to be the only one some British know about though). The British army murdered innocent people and then lied about it to cover it up. The dead were instead blamed. This report clears them as well as naming the soldiers as the ones responsible. As for the cost, take that up with your government – it doesnt change the fact that innocent people were murdered , not terrorists, but innocent people. I hope that has helped some understand.

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Maybe it’s just how I was taught (and it always seemed right to me)… but a big thing driven into me was that you respect a God or Goddess on His/Her own terms.

A perfect example– the Christian God says “have no other Gods before me.” But people want to drag Him into Wiccan rituals and put a Goddess beside Him. Does “but I want to do it that way” really cut it? Shouldn’t you be doing it His way if you want to worship Him?

Or people who want to mix Greek and Hindu Gods in a Celtic (flavored) style ritual. Is there something a bit off about throwing out the Celtic Knot altar cloth and invoking Kali-Ma and Pan to honor Them for Samhain? Or throw Santerian Orisha statues on their fairy Wicca altar with a stack of prayer petitions?

Isn’t it a bit like treating like Them like hired help, to drag Them along to do something for you? To not even go out of your way to make Them feel comfortable and at home the way you would treat a guest of honor? If WE are the ones inviting THEM into our lives, shouldn’t WE be the ones to make appropriate accommodations and an effort to forge a relationship in a way They feel comfortable?

Or is it all about us? Do you think God/desses just don’t care what we do… it’s the thought that counts and all that sort of thing (even if the thought didn’t go much further than “hey, i want something from this One”). Call Them, mix Them, match Them, use Them, they’re just delighted to be getting attention from us and don’t ever expect us to have the manners to treat Them a certain way.

But even if you think They are understanding enough not to demand or expect things from us– how do you not yourself WANT to be as respectful and thoughtful as possible when addressing Them, taking cues from history and mythology and cultures that have revered Them for centuries before us, on what They prefer?

Sorry for the rant but curious of what others think. Maybe I’m missing some logic here.
Clarification– perhaps I should have made this clear– I’m talking about those who actually believe in and/or worship Higher Powers. If you don’t believe in deity then it’s a given you don’t think there are entities who care about anything.

Basementcat, I know there is a difference; that’s why I addressed Wiccans & Heathens & Pagans in general instead of just “Wiccans” or just “Pagans” or just “Heathens.” If I thought they were all the same exact thing I would not have used all 3 terms. And I know Wiccans are Pagans… but being Wiccan I was hoping to specifically catch the attention of Wiccans, but I’d be happy to hear opinions from those of any other Pagan faith, and Heathens as well.

Why do so many Scots, especially the Nationalists have such a problem with Wales? But what do you base your opinions on?
When I go to Wales, I see more of a country than Scotland. Because you all speak English, your national anthem is in English, you’re trying to wipe out your languages (I’m not including ‘Scots’ as it’s just a dialect of English). Also, all your signposts are in English, but I do know you have Gaelic ones in some areas.
The Welsh still have their own language. Scotland chose English as their language, while the Welsh were forced to speak English. Yet, they have saved it from dying out.

I have more respect for Welsh people, as they have more respect for their country. They don’t base their nationality on hating us, and are proud of their culture. Wales has had cultural nationalism, and I don’t think Scotland has ever had something like this. Also, Scotland went into the Union, because you were bankrupt by the Darien scheme, and England bailed you out, yet you still hate us! Independence- You’re so blinded by anti-Englishness, you’ll do anything to get away from us, even at the expense of your country’s wellbeing.

Why do you believe that you’ve been oppressed by England, and Wales has had an easy ride? Do you know their history? Why do you enjoy being ‘victims’? Why do you have this ‘Braveheart’ mentality? It’s 2009!

My girlfriend is Welsh, and she had a lot of hassle in Scotland for being Welsh. She speaks her language, and so do her family. They’re really proud people, and I have never seen this in the Scots. Just anger and bigotry. And not just towards the English and Welsh. Heard some nice anti-Irish chanting from Rangers fans.
I’m not aiming this at all Scots, just the ignorant ones.

The Malleys, let the people sing. This is the version that gets played at parkhead.

When she’s driving by a crowd of people or walking or standing outside in her castle?

You never see anybody bow. Or do they? Why?

I am writing a story, and I want it to take place in or near a place where the population speaks primarily Gaelic.
Please: no smart aleck answers. That means no “In Gae-land lol” please.
Thank you!

I am writing an essay on English political history and identity. I cant figure what the collective term is to define you all. When i say “You” I mean Welsh, Scot’s, Irish (north and South), English etc. Also what is the collective name given for Ireland and England is it Great Britain?